Hi
I am trying to figure out what is the best way to prevent fan from being
turned off while in control mode. i am afraid will not be enough
ventilation of smoke
while chasing temperature with full burner while no fan
Usually my fan minimum volts consumption is 5 volts on the scale 0-100
it is 19 so if i put 19 as minimum scale limit and the fan turned off will
be on -19
will it be enough or there is a better solution?
regards
Guy
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Hi Guy, you can set the lower limit to 19 and set up events events to specifically set the voltage output to anything in the output range. I use a 0-10v range which is the default for the OUT1001 and a min of 3.8v for the slider setup.
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> On 28/07/2020, at 11:28 PM, hannson hannson via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
>
> Guy,
>
> If I think I know what you want:
> 1. During roasting, you need the lowest value for Fan to be 19. Your concern is that PID will change this value to be lower than 19.
> 2. After roasting, Fan can be turned off
>
> Here is my suggestion which I tested:
>
> 1. In the Events/Slider settings, for Fan, in the Minimum setting, you can set to 19. What you will notice is that the minimum value when you turn "ON" will be 19.
>
> 2. In the Events/Button settings, I suggest that you add a button that will send the value 0 to fan. This way, once you stop roasting, you can press this button and a value of 0 will be sent and your Fan will turn off.
> Remember: Slider minimum value is 19, so you can't use slider to set to 0 anymore.
>
> Please test and report your findings.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 5:58 PM Guy Tzur <espressotech(a)gmail.com <mailto:espressotech@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> if you have the target in control air and burner
>> and you should have device like phidget to control them
>> so sliders are activated by artisan to follow the sv
>> attached my slider and control configuration
>> regards
>> Guy
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:27 AM hannson hannson <raymond.lay(a)gmail.com <mailto:raymond.lay@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Guy
>>
>> "My question is specifically concerning the control algorithm because to minimise temperature in the drum the control pushes the burner to max and fan to min"
>>
>> I guess this is outside my knowledge as I do not know the configuration in Artisan that does 2 things to minimise temperature:
>> 1. push burner to max, and
>> 2. fan to min
>>
>> In my own build, fluid bed, I have Artisan automatically control only the heater based on BT.
>>
>> Can you share your current configuration with some screenshots? I'm curious to see how both burner and fan are being controlled at the same time :)
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:50 PM Guy Tzur via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
>> As a matter of fact fan/blower is controlled by artisan slider and phidget as range of 0-12 volts
>> and is differential , any point in the slider is different volt the fan gets.
>> My question is specifically concerning the control algorithm because to minimise temperature in the drum the control pushes the burner to max and fan to min . But there is a variable it does not take into account: the constraint is not turning off the fan completely because it will prevent smoke getting out.
>> so i ask what is the best way to control the fan with a limit of 19=5 volt and 100 12 volts
>> that way smoke can still get out with the duct . I also want to have the option to turn off the fan but if the slider goes from 19 it will not be turned off so I asked if the -19 in button is the way to turn it off or is there a way by alarm or something else?
>> regards
>> Guy
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:30 AM Frans Goddijn via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
>> It looks like this is not a question specific to Artisan but mainly about the construction of a roaster?
>>
>> As far as I know, controlling a blower is usually done different, not by raising and lowering voltage but for instance switching the power off/on very quickly by a circuit controlled by Arduino or another system (VFD) which in turn communicates with Artisan.
>>
>> In my view it’s a better idea to take this specific question to a group about “building your own roaster”.
>>
>> You say that your fan is turned off “in control mode” — it’s not clear what hardware exactly you use and how “control mode” affects this so that may explain why no answer has arrived yet.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Frans
>>
>> Op 28 jul. 2020, om 09:16 heeft Guy Tzur via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> het volgende geschreven:
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>>
>> i send again
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Guy Tzur <espressotech(a)gmail.com <mailto:espressotech@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:36 PM
>> Subject: fan in control mode
>> To: Marko Luther via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> I am trying to figure out what is the best way to prevent fan from being turned off while in control mode. i am afraid will not be enough ventilation of smoke
>> while chasing temperature with full burner while no fan
>> Usually my fan minimum volts consumption is 5 volts on the scale 0-100
>> it is 19 so if i put 19 as minimum scale limit and the fan turned off will be on -19
>> will it be enough or there is a better solution?
>> regards
>> Guy
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> best regards
>> Guy Tzur
>>
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:32 PM Guy Tzur <espressotech(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
> i do have a ror curve but it is very agitated.
> also is located as attached pdf under bt and et curves.
> i was trying to follow a profile in background and in beginning was big
> gap in bt temperature
> so fan was 0 but after few minutes i opened fan to release smoke
> what is the common alarm to prevent fan to go 0 on these situations?
>
> I wonder if it is a definition problem because the taste of roast was very
> good.
> also as in my first mail i attached picture of data from roast properties
> and a parallel table from cropster not for same roast just to demonstrate
> the data i am looking for
> so i hope it is clearer now
> regards
> Guy
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:38 PM Michael Herbert <
> carefreebuzzbuzz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The blog post describes how to achieve the 30 second ROR. Delta span and
>> sampling have nothing to do with it. It’s hard for us to advise you without
>> you sharing all of your settings and what is currently working at not. I
>> don’t even know if you have a ROR curve showing.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:17 PM Guy Tzur <espressotech(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ok
>>> i am set up with phidget TMP 1101 4xTC01 as a roasting machine
>>> 2 thermocouple k for et and bt
>>> my question remains how do i configure to see ROR change in degrees over
>>> the roast
>>> every 30 seconds . Is this only defined as described in the blog?
>>> delta span 15 seconds
>>> sampling 10 seconds
>>> where do i define the time intervals of the data table of properties?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:23 PM Michael Herbert <
>>> carefreebuzzbuzz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No you asked about ROR over 30 seconds. The blog post covers that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you are looking to connect sensors to devices to Artisan please
>>>> provide details.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM Guy Tzur <espressotech(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> so basically if i understand since my roaster is not on the list i
>>>>> have to add the rules specified there
>>>>> in order for ror to be computed?
>>>>> also in data will i be able to see meaningful ror temp change?
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Guy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:50 PM Michael Herbert <
>>>>> carefreebuzzbuzz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what you are asking for is covered about 2/3 down in this
>>>>>> blog post:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://artisan-roasterscope.blogspot.com/2019/11/symbolic-formulas-basics-…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___________________________
>>>>>> Michael Herbert, CarefreeBuzzBuzz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Guy Tzur via Artisan-User <
>>>>>> artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> where can i see ror change in degrees after roast
>>>>>> the data in properties gives reading every 2 seconds
>>>>>> but hard for me to see the ror difference.
>>>>>> every 30 seconds is good for me.
>>>>>> attached part of the data in properties
>>>>>> and for reference cropster table (not same roast)
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Guy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> Guy Tzur
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <http://www.espressotech.co.il>
>>>>>> <data.JPG>
>>>>>> <ror.JPG>
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>>>>> Guy Tzur
>>>>>
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>>>>> <http://www.espressotech.co.il>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> __________________
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> best regards
>>> Guy Tzur
>>>
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>>> <http://www.espressotech.co.il>
>>>
>> --
>>
>> __________________
>> Michael Herbert, Head Roaster
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>>
>
>
> --
> best regards
> Guy Tzur
>
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> <http://www.espressotech.co.il>
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Hello,
where can i see ror change in degrees after roast
the data in properties gives reading every 2 seconds
but hard for me to see the ror difference.
every 30 seconds is good for me.
attached part of the data in properties
and for reference cropster table (not same roast)
regards
Guy
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best regards
Guy Tzur
www <http://www.espressotech.co.il/>.espressotech.co.il
<http://www.espressotech.co.il>
Hi. Thanks so much for the awesome software.
I'm running 2.4.0, on a Macbook with OS 10.15.5. I installed the current phidgets driver also.
I'm getting -1 errors on the BT and sometimes BT and ET. tried restarting computer, reinstalling artisan, going back a version but it seems to not be working.
What should I look for to start making sure the software is all set up correctly?
I should say It's been working fine most of this year, but sometimes will give the -1 error. Usually I'll restart computer, and only have artisan open and it works again. This time non of that helps.
Thanks!
i own a small (500 g) Huky roaster and until a few days ago was using an
older version of artisan to log my roast profiles. I was having issues
with my laptop which was running win7, so I did a complete wipe and
installed windows 10. I downloaded the latest artisan but now I'm lost
and confused. At first it opened ArtisanViewer. I have no idea what this
is and can't find anything online about it. In getting very frustrated and
about to give up and find a different program. is there a video or text
tutorial anywhere??? please help!!
thank you,
Carlos
Recently the batch numbers reset to 0 and started counting up again. I try
to change it back, but it won't stick. How can I set the Batch counter
back to the correct number? Config...Batch... is not working.
Dennis
Hi,
Just wondering if we can potentially use Artisan Plus to analyse or refer
back to roast profiles, cupping, etc.
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I seem to have some memory of someone using a coffee roaster and Artisan to roast cocoa, but for the life of me can’t find any of the info I recall. Does anyone do this, or does anyone have pointers on where the previous info was posted? The friend who I posted here about his FZ94 instrumentation is interested in testing this out if nothing else, and is looking for any pointers (anything like a profile might be a good start)
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Hi,
May I ask if anyone has a tip on when you are doing back to back roasting,
what is the best workflow or method to have a roast in progress in Artisan
while at the same time you may need to go back to the previous completed to
update certain info, such as, the roasted weight.
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