October 2020 - Artisan-User - lists.einfachkaffee.de

by Brett Pound

I’m adding the list back in. Dan, the list is here to help the community, the rising tide floats all boats etc. It’s fine to have a conversation off line, but the knowledge everyone has can only benefit from being shared, so please don’t take this the wrong way, but keep the conversation in the open ! From: Dan Lawrence<mailto:dlviolin1@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 30 October 2020 3:10 PM To: Brett Pound<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Re: Automation / Follow Background Brett, I can help you with this. Please reply to me directly, not to the whole list. Dan On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 10:57 PM Brett Pound via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote: The section in the blog post I referenced earlier titled “Artisan’s software PID” is what you want then? Sent from Mail<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.micros…> for Windows 10 From: Dustin Betterly<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net> Sent: Friday, 30 October 2020 2:45 PM To: Michael Herbert<mailto:carefreebuzzbuzz@gmail.com> Cc: Brett Pound<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com>; artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Re: Automation / Follow Background The alarm feature works well, but I can’t use it for all beans, so I’d like to play with the idea of loading a background profile to see how well the software will match. If it doesn’t work it’s not the end of the world, just thought I’d try it out. Get Outlook for iOS<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> From: Michael Herbert <carefreebuzzbuzz(a)gmail.com<mailto:carefreebuzzbuzz@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 11:18:15 PM To: Dustin Betterly <dustin(a)dustinbetterly.net<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net>> Cc: Brett Pound <brett_pound(a)hotmail.com<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com>>; artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Re: Automation / Follow Background You can run alarms and events from a background roast. Not sure what in PID control you want to do? Don’t you want to replicate gas adjustments? Michael Herbert CarefreeBuzzBuzz On Oct 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Dustin Betterly <dustin(a)dustinbetterly.net<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net>> wrote: I was definitely looking for software PID - but I appreciate you asking. I have figured out the alarm events, that works quite well but there are times when I’d like to follow an exact profile. Get Outlook for iOS<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> From: Michael Herbert <carefreebuzzbuzz(a)gmail.com<mailto:carefreebuzzbuzz@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 11:02:05 PM To: Brett Pound <brett_pound(a)hotmail.com<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com>> Cc: Dustin Betterly <dustin(a)dustinbetterly.net<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net>>; artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Re: Automation / Follow Background I think Dustin is looking for Alarms to control the gas via Events and not PID functions but I could be wrong. Won't be the first or last time. Dustin you will need to clarify. On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 7:56 PM Brett Pound via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote: If it’s not a supported device (meaning roaster) you won’t find it in documentation, you’re going to need to look at blog posts for guidance. Start https://artisan-scope.org/about/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fartisan-s…> and then https://artisan-roasterscope.blogspot.de/2016/11/pid-control.html<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fartisan-r…> looks most promising to me Sent from Mail<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.micros…> for Windows 10 From: Dustin Betterly<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net> Sent: Friday, 30 October 2020 1:51 PM To: Brett Pound<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com>; artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> Subject: Re: Automation / Follow Background That is correct, as a software PID - My assumption was it’s possible, but I can’t seem to figure it out, any idea where in the documentation I might look? Get Outlook for iOS<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2F…> <31A8518AF0504BCD9095ABB5AB1730B4.png> From: Brett Pound <brett_pound(a)hotmail.com<mailto:brett_pound@hotmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:45:33 PM To: Dustin Betterly <dustin(a)dustinbetterly.net<mailto:dustin@dustinbetterly.net>>; artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> Subject: RE: Automation / Follow Background Do you mean will Artisan run as a software PID? I believe so, as long as you can control the gas adjustment from Artisan Sent from Mail<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.micros…> for Windows 10 From: Dustin Betterly via Artisan-User<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> Sent: Friday, 30 October 2020 10:49 AM To: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de<mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> Subject: [Artisan-user] Automation / Follow Background I don’t have a PID, but I have my gas valve connected to artisan. Once a profile has been made with specific gas adjustments, is it possible to have artisan follow that and adjust automatically? 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Re: Configuring Artisan for a Mill City 1kg roaster

by Marko Luther

Dear Dan, > On 29. Oct 2020, at 20:25, Dan Strickland <dans(a)mtaonline.net> wrote: > > Hey Marko... thanks for your reply. Just to clarify, we used Artisan to help develop our preferred roast profiles, and definitely benefited from that service. Once we dialed things in, I quit using Artisan and went solely by temperature readings and sound of the cracks. My wife, however, continues to use Artisan to keep us on track with any changes in our roasting profiles. I'll donate $100 today. We are a small mom and pop shop and make about $300/month without paying ourselves a salary, so perhaps you might consider this a mitigating condition, perhaps not. All things said one should pay for a service, so I'll make that donation. If we expand I'll continue that. Thanks for your support! > > I'll attach our settings for you to take a look. any help would be appreciated. I did get a response from a third party, but it seems to involve changing out the thermocouples and using RTDS, which becomes more involved and I'm hoping it's simply a setting issue. I will make sure we've update our Phidget software version to see if that helps. Thanks. I just loaded your settings and this is very confusing. Obviously this setting is configured for the Hottop 2k+. Did you send the correct settings? If not, I recommend to do a factory reset (menu Help >> Factory Reset) and reconfigure for your machine. Thus I do not know the setup of your machine (or any other Mill City Roaster for the lack of support by this company) I cannot help on this part. Maybe it is best to ask your vendor for support here. To just configure for a Phidget 1048 2xTC setup for reading ET/BT as Cropster is using it you can choose the "Config >> Machine >> Phidget "USB 1048 Databridge" entry, but the Mill City setup might be different and even using a different Phidget module. Sorry, Marko > > Dan > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 5:14 AM Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Dear Dan, > > > On 29. Oct 2020, at 00:30, Dan Strickland <dans(a)mtaonline.net> wrote: > > > > Hey Marko, > > > > When we bought our roaster we were told that Artisan was a free application, > > A common misunderstanding that is communicated by some vendors of machines, those that also never supported the Artisan project like Mill City. Artisan is free to use, but very costly for those who develop it. Luckily there are other companies that tell their customer to download AND donate, like Randy from Buckey Coffee who is donating every month a certain share from his sales in addition. > > > and downloaded it, as I recall, without seeing anything about a donation. > > Above every download link there is a text asking for a donation to keep the project going. > > > No excuse > > No > > > and we'll see if we can come through. > > I actually quit using it because we dialed in our roast profiles, but that doesn't mean Artisan wasn't instrumental in that. We do appreciate the help it provided. > > So you are not using Artisan anymore, but still ask for support? > > > Anyway, can't seem to get any help in configuring it now so that the change in ET and change in BT shows up in a graph. All we get is a straight line measuring the time. Any suggestions? > > Not without seeing your Artisan settings. Save them into a file (menu Help >> Save Settings) and share them with us to have us take a look. > > Marko > > > > > Dan > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On 28. Oct 2020, at 20:47, dwadestrickland--- via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote: > > > > > > We used artisan successfully for the last three years, > > > > You used artisan successfully for the last three years and never supported its development with your donation? > > M > > > <artisan-settings October 2020.aset>

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Automation / Follow Background

by Dustin Betterly

I don’t have a PID, but I have my gas valve connected to artisan. Once a profile has been made with specific gas adjustments, is it possible to have artisan follow that and adjust automatically? Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

2 months, 3 weeks

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Re: Configuring Artisan for a Mill City 1kg roaster

by Marko Luther

Dear Dan, > On 29. Oct 2020, at 00:30, Dan Strickland <dans(a)mtaonline.net> wrote: > > Hey Marko, > > When we bought our roaster we were told that Artisan was a free application, A common misunderstanding that is communicated by some vendors of machines, those that also never supported the Artisan project like Mill City. Artisan is free to use, but very costly for those who develop it. Luckily there are other companies that tell their customer to download AND donate, like Randy from Buckey Coffee who is donating every month a certain share from his sales in addition. > and downloaded it, as I recall, without seeing anything about a donation. Above every download link there is a text asking for a donation to keep the project going. > No excuse No > and we'll see if we can come through. > I actually quit using it because we dialed in our roast profiles, but that doesn't mean Artisan wasn't instrumental in that. We do appreciate the help it provided. So you are not using Artisan anymore, but still ask for support? > Anyway, can't seem to get any help in configuring it now so that the change in ET and change in BT shows up in a graph. All we get is a straight line measuring the time. Any suggestions? Not without seeing your Artisan settings. Save them into a file (menu Help >> Save Settings) and share them with us to have us take a look. Marko > > Dan > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net> wrote: > > > > On 28. Oct 2020, at 20:47, dwadestrickland--- via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote: > > > > We used artisan successfully for the last three years, > > You used artisan successfully for the last three years and never supported its development with your donation? > M

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Configuring Artisan for a Mill City 1kg roaster

by dwadestrickland＠gmail.com

We used artisan successfully for the last three years, then either our phidget or the connecting cord went out, so we replaced them both. I upgraded our artisan software as well as the latest phidget software, yet all we can get is a straight vertical line moving across our screen. I've checked with Mill City and they said all you have to do is configure the device and pick Phidget, but that hasn't solved our problem. We've played with all the settings but cannot get anything more. Any suggestions? Thanks. Dan Gale Force Coffee Roasters

2 months, 3 weeks

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Phidget Proportion Valve

by Dustin Betterly

I have a proportion valve with a 0-5v driver on my roaster, has anyone used a similar setup with artisan? Just curious what you’d recommend? I was looking at the OUT1002_0 16bit Output Phidget. I also have a Dwyer DH3 differential pressure gauge that I have for logging the gas pressure. I presume there is a way to utilize the input pressure readings and the gas output through artisan? Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

2 months, 4 weeks

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2.4.2 Not connecting to MacBook Pro with OS Catalina

by ed4pbay＠gmail.com

Anyone with a similar setup able to communicate between machine and Mac? I went back to Vers. 2.12 and everything works fine. Checked my settings and they transferred over and stayed the same in 2.4.2. Super user was on, sliders and button changes had no effect in fact the lcd on the Hottop never lit up.

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Don't succeed to save a newly designed background curve in the Designer

by leonid.lipkin＠gmail.com

All the options under File are grey and not clickable. What could be the problem? Thanks.

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Re: Victor 86B multi meter as device, how to set up?

by Frans Goddijn

That sounds good! Let us know if it’s sorted for you (and how), then others may be encouraged on their paths as well ;-) Frans > Op 9 okt. 2020, om 13:53 heeft Fine Coffee <mountainairroasts(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Yes Thanks Frans: I have selected the device as Victor 86B and it is DMM. It registers under connected devices on my Apple MacBook- I will look at further software tomorrow.... > > Hans R > Australia. > > > > > On 9 Oct 2020, 10:29 PM +1100, Frans Goddijn via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de>, wrote: >> >> Artisan supports the Victor 86B DMM — is that the one you have? >> >> Have you selected Config -> Device -> Meter -> Victor 86B ? >> >> Frans >> >> >> (PS The manual of your device is fairly brief about the communication: "Data transmission function: Install the software, accessory of the instrument. Connect the instrument to PC by USB Cable, and then can transmit the measuring data to PC, it is convenient to record, analyze, process and print the measuring results, etc.”) >> >> >>> Op 9 okt. 2020, om 13:03 heeft Jack Redfort via Artisan-User <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> I have tried Victor 86B with MacBook Pro but frustratingly have tried everything within my limited expertise BUT cannot get any suitable comm port to come up under port>extra after adding as extra device. Will this only work with Windows machines? Anyone help? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Artisan-User mailing list -- artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to artisan-user-leave(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user-leave@lists.einfachkaffee.de> >>> unsubscribe via https://mailman.ghostdub.de/postorius/lists/artisan-user.lists.einfachkaffe… <https://mailman.ghostdub.de/postorius/lists/artisan-user.lists.einfachkaffe…> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Artisan-User mailing list -- artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de >> To unsubscribe send an email to artisan-user-leave(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de >> unsubscribe via https://mailman.ghostdub.de/postorius/lists/artisan-user.lists.einfachkaffe…

3 months, 1 week

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Victor 86B multi meter as device, how to set up?

by Henrik Bo Carlsen

Hi, On the device page https://artisan-scope.org/devices/meters/ I read that the optically isolated Victor 86B is compatible with Scope, while others say Scope do not work with USB HID devices, such as the Victor DMM.... My Victor 86B shows up in the device manager under USB HID devices in win 7. In Artisan 2.0.0 Scope config devices is set to Meter/Victor 86B after which a port config window appears to select a com port. I have installed the CP210X driver, and would expect a virtual comport to show up, when the Victor 86B is connected, but that does not seem to happen. Any suggestions to cure the problem, please let me know. Alternatively, for two K-type sensors, which optically isolated solution is the choice for Artisan Scope 2.0.0, please. Thanks in advance, Henrik

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