Re: [Artisan-user] Artisan-User Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
by Frank
Hi,
are you using isolated thermocouples?
If you are, perhaps somewhere the isolation broke and is touching the protective mesh and picking up electrical noise of your machine.
If your weren't it could also be a grounding problem in your roaster.
Best
Frank C.
Frank Cebreros
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> 1. Spike issues (Pear)
> 2. Re: Spike issues (Brett Pound)
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>De: Pear <mr.pear(a)me.com>
>A: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
>Enviado: Mon Oct 22 14:33:00 GMT-05:00 2018
>Asunto: [Artisan-user] Spike issues
>
>I am wondering if you can help me. A couple months ago my graphs
>started getting very spiky and i could see that it wasn't just the ROR
>out of whack but all the others jittered at the same time. Even my
>ambient temperature would go up and all the others. Very often it came
>as I hit an event button on the artisan app.
>
>I thought my battery was going on my Center 304 reader so I bought an
>AC adaptor. (I read now that power supply to your laptop is not good
>…never used one, so I thought maybe the same for Temp probes?) Anyways
>even tonight when I unplug and went back onto the battery I get very
>inconsistent readings. Mind you, I haven't bought a new battery yet.
>Could this be the problem?
>
>I am just trying to reproduce some old roasts and paying attention to
>ROR for some test reasons and everything is throwing me off.
>
>I also have a new coffee I want to roast tomorrow and thats fine for
>roasting without…but to go back and to see what is going on the ROR is
>ridiculous. As the day goes on and you roast there is also no
>consistency in the problems. I have don't the update and have the same
>problems. I have also adjusted the samplings and smoothing of curves
>etc. My issues are beyond smoothing and sampling. It’s like the curve
>got a shot of electricity then dies then rebounds. I was going to send
>snapshots but today I had new settings with new intervals which makes
>the problem look worse and also had smoothed some curves after which
>didnt help me during.
>
>
>Can you help me Please?
>
>Thanks,
>Pear
>
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>De: Brett Pound <brett_pound(a)hotmail.com>
>A: Pear <mr.pear(a)me.com>, "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de"
><artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de>
>Enviado: Mon Oct 22 16:08:47 GMT-05:00 2018
>Asunto: Re: [Artisan-user] Spike issues
>
>>From what you describe, this is usually electrical noise on the
>thermocouple signal lines, and is sometimes related to wiring issues
>(like a worn thermocouple wire) or grounding issues, but certainly can
>be battery related. I’d replace the battery and try again, as that’s a
>quick and easy way to check.
>
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>on behalf of Pear <mr.pear(a)me.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:33:00 AM
>To: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
>Subject: [Artisan-user] Spike issues
>
>I am wondering if you can help me. A couple months ago my graphs
>started getting very spiky and i could see that it wasn't just the ROR
>out of whack but all the others jittered at the same time. Even my
>ambient temperature would go up and all the others. Very often it came
>as I hit an event button on the artisan app.
>
>I thought my battery was going on my Center 304 reader so I bought an
>AC adaptor. (I read now that power supply to your laptop is not good
>…never used one, so I thought maybe the same for Temp probes?) Anyways
>even tonight when I unplug and went back onto the battery I get very
>inconsistent readings. Mind you, I haven't bought a new battery yet.
>Could this be the problem?
>
>I am just trying to reproduce some old roasts and paying attention to
>ROR for some test reasons and everything is throwing me off.
>
>I also have a new coffee I want to roast tomorrow and thats fine for
>roasting without…but to go back and to see what is going on the ROR is
>ridiculous. As the day goes on and you roast there is also no
>consistency in the problems. I have don't the update and have the same
>problems. I have also adjusted the samplings and smoothing of curves
>etc. My issues are beyond smoothing and sampling. It’s like the curve
>got a shot of electricity then dies then rebounds. I was going to send
>snapshots but today I had new settings with new intervals which makes
>the problem look worse and also had smoothed some curves after which
>didnt help me during.
>
>
>Can you help me Please?
>
>Thanks,
>Pear
>
>
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1 year
Spike issues
by Pear
I am wondering if you can help me. A couple months ago my graphs started getting very spiky and i could see that it wasn't just the ROR out of whack but all the others jittered at the same time. Even my ambient temperature would go up and all the others. Very often it came as I hit an event button on the artisan app.
I thought my battery was going on my Center 304 reader so I bought an AC adaptor. (I read now that power supply to your laptop is not good …never used one, so I thought maybe the same for Temp probes?) Anyways even tonight when I unplug and went back onto the battery I get very inconsistent readings. Mind you, I haven't bought a new battery yet. Could this be the problem?
I am just trying to reproduce some old roasts and paying attention to ROR for some test reasons and everything is throwing me off.
I also have a new coffee I want to roast tomorrow and thats fine for roasting without…but to go back and to see what is going on the ROR is ridiculous. As the day goes on and you roast there is also no consistency in the problems. I have don't the update and have the same problems. I have also adjusted the samplings and smoothing of curves etc. My issues are beyond smoothing and sampling. It’s like the curve got a shot of electricity then dies then rebounds. I was going to send snapshots but today I had new settings with new intervals which makes the problem look worse and also had smoothed some curves after which didnt help me during.
Can you help me Please?
Thanks,
Pear
1 year
Phidgets to read 0-10V
by Nico Bigler
Hi,
I’m trying to monitor my airflow setting in Artisan. Up to now I have been manually moving a slider in Artisan when I move the actual potentiometer controlling the fan on the roaster.
I have two roasters. On one of the roasters, the potentiometer is 0-5V so I should be able to use the Phidgets Vint HUB0000 voltage input (which I ordered for this purpose and also the new ambiant weather function). However, when I measured on the 2nd roaster (which is actually the one I’m trying to connect to), the fan control potentiometer is 0-10V which is twice the voltage the HUB0000 can take.
As I am really not that good with electronic, I was wondering if anybody had a recomendation.
I have been reading about voltage dividers but also saw that Phidgets has a “Precision Voltage Sensor” (ID: 1135_0B) which can read 1/-30V DC. But I don’t think it’s in the list of Phidgets supported by Artisan.
Any input or recomendations are welcome.
Regards
Nicolas
1 year, 1 month
Artisan v1.5.0 release
by Marko Luther
Dear all,
We just released Artisan v1.5.0 with some important bug fixes over v1.4.0.
Thanks for reporting those issues!
Marko, Dave, Rui and Michael
1 year, 1 month
missing DeltaBT curve
by Steve Udy
Hi
I’m using Artisan 0.9.9 on a Mac (running High Sierra 10.13.6).
I enter temperatures manually (ie no Phidget connection).
I have been unable to get the DeltaBT curve to plot automatically as I enter temperatures. The DeltaBT LCD also shows zero. However if I go to Config > Colors and click OK (ie without making any color selection) then the DeltaBt curve appears. The DeltaBT curve also appears when I end the plot by selecting ‘Off’.
I tried Artisan 1.4.0 and the DeltaBT curve again fails to appear automatically as I enter data. The workaround I use for 0.9.9 selecting Colors from the Config menu does not work in 1.4.0 although the DeltaBT curve does appear after selecting ‘Off’ at the end of the roast.
In both 0.9.9 and 1.4.0 I have DeltaBT selected in the Curves menu.
Thanks for your anticipated help and suggestions
Steve
1 year, 1 month
Re: [Artisan-user] Hottop Port
by Marko Luther
Dear Doak and all,
the Hottop communication is broken on v1.4. Thus either use for now the v1.3.1 until next week v1.5 is released, or use the v1.5 beta builds on BinTray that solve this and some other issue discovered in v1.4.
https://bintray.com/artisan/artisan-artifacts/artisan/master#files
Best,
Marko
> On 13. Oct 2018, at 21:14, Doak Procter <doak(a)procter.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, all,
>
> I recently got a Hottop 2k+, and I am eager to use Artisan 1.4 with it. However, I cannot seem to get Artisan and the HT to communicate. No matter what port I choose or what USB port I try, I only get the "-1" readings. I even tried a different laptop. I don't have this problem with Artisan 1.3.1.
>
> I use the Windows version. I appreciate any advice you can provide.
>
> Thanks! Cheers!
>
>
> Doak Procter
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1 year, 1 month
Hottop Port
by Doak Procter
Hello, all,
I recently got a Hottop 2k+, and I am eager to use Artisan 1.4 with it.
However, I cannot seem to get Artisan and the HT to communicate. No matter
what port I choose or what USB port I try, I only get the "-1" readings. I
even tried a different laptop. I don't have this problem with Artisan
1.3.1.
I use the Windows version. I appreciate any advice you can provide.
Thanks! Cheers!
Doak Procter
1 year, 1 month
Re: [Artisan-user] Artisan-User Digest, Vol 86, Issue 10
by Marko Luther
Thanks Joel,
this is a valid "work-around".
M
> On 10. Oct 2018, at 16:33, Joel <joel(a)freshofftheroast.com> wrote:
>
> So, I did find a workaround that allows us to basically operate the dual-monitor setup we had before. It works in Windows 8 (which is what I am running), but I suspect would work for other versions of Windows as well.
>
> First, I created a second user in Window accounts. Then by holding down shift and right clicking on my Artisan shortcut, I select "Run as a Different User." That will open a new copy of artisan. I then had to give the new user access to the roast logs and set the display and axes parameters to match.
>
> Joel
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:31:16 +0200
> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net>
> To: Joel <joel(a)freshofftheroast.com>
> Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Multi-screen view
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> Dear Joel,
>
> > One more note, I found that I had also update my phidget drivers to get them to sync with the new version. While I am now getting better readings from my voltage inputs (which is use to track control settings), it took me awhile to figure out that artisan was only displaying the millivolts component of the voltage readout. So, for example, 2.800 volts displayed as 800 and 3.250 volts as 250.
>
> I can confirm this in case "Decimal Places" under Config >> Curves, UI tab is not ticked. I will improve on this and display "--" instead in this case. Consider ticking "Decimal Places" which should render values up to 5 digits (decimal places might get truncated).
>
> Best,
> Marko
>
> >
> > Joel
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Re: [Artisan-user] Artisan-User Digest, Vol 86, Issue 10
by Joel
So, I did find a workaround that allows us to basically operate the
dual-monitor setup we had before. It works in Windows 8 (which is what I am
running), but I suspect would work for other versions of Windows as well.
First, I created a second user in Window accounts. Then by holding down
shift and right clicking on my Artisan shortcut, I select "Run as a
Different User." That will open a new copy of artisan. I then had to give
the new user access to the roast logs and set the display and axes
parameters to match.
Joel
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:31:16 +0200
> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net>
> To: Joel <joel(a)freshofftheroast.com>
> Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Multi-screen view
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> Dear Joel,
>
> > One more note, I found that I had also update my phidget drivers to get
> them to sync with the new version. While I am now getting better readings
> from my voltage inputs (which is use to track control settings), it took me
> awhile to figure out that artisan was only displaying the millivolts
> component of the voltage readout. So, for example, 2.800 volts displayed as
> 800 and 3.250 volts as 250.
>
> I can confirm this in case "Decimal Places" under Config >> Curves, UI tab
> is not ticked. I will improve on this and display "--" instead in this
> case. Consider ticking "Decimal Places" which should render values up to 5
> digits (decimal places might get truncated).
>
> Best,
> Marko
>
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > --
> > Qualia Coffee
> >
> > In Petworth
> > 3917 Georgia Ave NW
> > Washington DC 20011
> >
> > In Eckington
> > 151 Q Street NE
> > Washington DC 20002
> > At Eckington Pl&Harry Thomas Way
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