Question on software set up
by Philip Hirschy
To Franz or anyone:
Two things, Is it possible to have the software automatically display the
DE when the temp reaches 300F. Right now I click this and it shows up on
the graph. How do I do this automatically each time?
Second a request for future editions of Artisan:
I am tracking four temperature probes, and Air flow, and Gas Pressure. Is
it possible on the gas flow to show the actual number of gas pressure on the
graph along with the graph? This may be too complicated? So that if the
gas pressure is held constant at 40% or 43% for 30 seconds or more, that
number is displayed on the graph. I am having a bit of difficulty in
reading over to the axis and seeing accurately what the gas pressure was at
that point in the roast.
Thank You
David
3 years, 2 months
Background not showing TP
by Chip Grabow
Why isn’t the TP of the background roast profile showing up? Wouldn’t that be worth showing?
Thanks
3 years, 2 months
Re: [Artisan-user] Seeking advice on equipment to begin using artisan software
by Frans Goddijn
The Thermocouple -> Amprobe -> USB -> computer -> Artisan connection allows you to log the roast and you can use the manual controls to manage the roast according to your intended profile.
I first used that on a tiny electrical roaster, then switched to the Fuji and specified all steps on my blog, but that is not of help if you want to have the Fuji PID control the gas heater.
http://kostverlorenvaart.blogspot.nl/2014/01/fuji-pxg4-setup-for-coffee-r... <http://kostverlorenvaart.blogspot.nl/2014/01/fuji-pxg4-setup-for-coffee-r...>
Later, the automatic background roasting was added.
Wa’il in Ryadh did use a Fuji to control his gas powered roaster but I do not think the details of it were posted in a step by step way yet.
Jan van der Weel in Amsterdam is working on an automatic control of the gas heater in his San Franciscan roaster but as yet he is not ready to share a complete effective setup.
So maybe the logging option is a good and practical start right now.
Wishing you the best!!
F
> Op 24 sep. 2016, om 22:55 heeft Mike Holliday <mucaluc(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> It may be. I am looking to get the information to the computer, then control the roast. I don't mind getting another thermocouple if it works better. There are just so many options, with the Arduino, Fuji, Watlow..., etc, that I don't know where to start.
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>> wrote:
>
>> The Amprobe TMD-56 can take the probe and communicate with the USB of your computer & Artisan
>>
>> http://www.amprobe.com/amprobe/usen/hvac-tools/thermocouple-thermometers/... <http://www.amprobe.com/amprobe/usen/hvac-tools/thermocouple-thermometers/...>
>>
>> Is that what you mean?
>>
>> Frans
>>
>>> Op 24 sep. 2016, om 19:12 heeft Mike Holliday <mucaluc(a)gmail.com <mailto:mucaluc@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm new here, and appreciate any advice I can get. I am currently roasting on a 6 kilo Primo Roaster, and may be getting a 24 kilo Diedrich. The Primo has a RobertShaw gas controller and gas valve, and my temp control has burnt out, so I'm totally manual with a type J thermocouple and digital reader.
>>> Does anyone have any experience with what hardware may be useful for connecting to a computer for using Artisan with this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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3 years, 2 months
Seeking advice on equipment to begin using artisan software
by Mike Holliday
Hi, I'm new here, and appreciate any advice I can get. I am currently roasting on a 6 kilo Primo Roaster, and may be getting a 24 kilo Diedrich. The Primo has a RobertShaw gas controller and gas valve, and my temp control has burnt out, so I'm totally manual with a type J thermocouple and digital reader.
Does anyone have any experience with what hardware may be useful for connecting to a computer for using Artisan with this?
Thanks,
Mike
Sent from my iPad
3 years, 2 months
Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
by Chris Pefanis
Marko!
You are a gentleman, scholar and my hero.
I am one of those people who always do the thing that software developers
never expect anyone to actually do!
My wife is a developer, and she always marvels at how I can break her work
in just a few minutes by doing something she thought no-one would ever
'logically' do :-):-):-):-)
Regards,
Chris Pefanis
On 24 Sep 2016 14:31, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
> Indeed Frans, this is the point and topic of the discussion.
> The first poster described a scenario when an event button was
> accidentally clicked, which you responded to and explained a right-click on
> the graph to re-position that mistaken click.
>
> I described a further scenario where I have experienced unnecessary
> hassles after -mistakenly- clicking on an event prematurely.
>
> So, what I am describing is not an actual scenario where the beans are
> cooling, as you have assumed it to be, but a mistake where the virtual
> scenario is created.
>
> In more detail for clear understanding:
>
> 1) the roast is in process
> 2) I mistakenly click 'Drop'
> 3) I right click the graph to place my 1st crack point when the true event
> actually happens ( because button is not available after 'Drop' has been
> mistakenly clicked.
> 4) I must continuously right-click to re-position DROP to monitor the %
> development while the beans continue to roast (note that the beans are not
> actually physically dropped yet)
> 5) When the beans are actually dropped, I right-click a final time to mark
> the actual event of the beans physically dropping into the cooler.
>
> This seems like an unnecessary effort that could be prevented with an
> 'undo" function.
>
> Regards,
> Chris Pefanis
> On 24 Sep 2016 14:21, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Undo mistaken button click (Frans Goddijn)
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:21:13 +0200
>> From: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
>> To: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de"
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>> Indeed I have no way of understanding why you would DROP the beans and
>> still continue the roast. The beans are in the cooling tray then. Or, if
>> they are still in the drum, DROP has been clicked a little prematurely.
>>
>> Never mind.
>>
>> Frans
>>
>> > Op 24 sep. 2016, om 14:11 heeft Chris Pefanis <chris.pefanis(a)gmail.com>
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Hi Frans!
>> >
>> > You have not understood my problem.
>> >
>> > You should try this and see what happens to gain a clearer
>> understanding of the issue at hand - click DROP before you click 1st
>> CRACK, then right-click and add your first crack point.
>> > If you can still see % development after DROP has been triggered but
>> your roast must continue, then your version of Artisan does not work the
>> same as mine.
>> > My version no longer increments % development after DROP has been
>> triggered.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Chris Pefanis
>> >
>> > On 24 Sep 2016 13:16, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
>> <mailto:artisan-user-request@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
>> >
>> > While it is possible to right-click and adjust your mis-click, it is
>> unfortunate that an undo option is not available. It has happened to me
>> before that I have hit DROP instead of 1st CRACK, and have to continuously
>> right-click the DROP point after adding a 1st CRACK event so I can monitor
>> the % development.
>> > Would it be possible to add an undo function in a future revision?
>> >
>> > Thank you again for a wonderful product. I'd be lost without it.
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Chris Pefanis
>> >
>> > On 23 Sep 2016 09:50, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
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>> > 1. Re: Undo mistaken button click? (Marko Luther)
>> > 2. Re: Event flags disappeared (Marko Luther)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:55:49 +0200
>> > From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click?
>> > To: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>
>> > Cc: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.ein
>> fachkaffee.de>"
>> > <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:
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>> >
>> > > On 22 Sep 2016, at 23:17, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:
>> frans(a)goddijn.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Chip, have you tried ?right-click? on the graph where you actually
>> wanted FC END to be, for instance after the roast?
>> >
>> > ..also possible during the roast.
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Frans
>> > >
>> > >> Op 22 sep. 2016, om 23:10 heeft RR <chip(a)radioroasters.com <mailto:
>> chip(a)radioroasters.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>> > >>
>> > >> I've occasionally hit an event button prematurely, like FC END,
>> before I
>> > >> meant to.
>> > >> Any way to UNDO these errant clicks?
>> > >
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:50:03 +0200
>> > From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Event flags disappeared
>> > To: Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
>> > Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.ein
>> fachkaffee.de>
>> > Message-ID: <81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744(a)gmx.net <mailto:
>> 81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744(a)gmx.net>>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Dear Jochen,
>> >
>> > your issue is by design (a design from about 7 years ago done by
>> Rafael) to display events on the ET (if that is available) and on the BT
>> otherwise. Only thing you can do right now is to switch to display those
>> extra events "by value" or "by type" to let them be drawn below the
>> temperature curves. In the later case you can click on the changes to have
>> the actual values displayed in the message line.
>> >
>> > Btw. I see from those two screenshots (before and after installing the
>> ET) that your new probe introduces considerable noise (most likely due to
>> some grounding issue) into your meter (also affecting the BT).
>> >
>> > Marko
>> >
>> > > On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:53, Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:
>> info(a)jocaffe.de>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Marco, Frans,
>> > >
>> > > thanks for replying, I solved one issue in the meanwhile.
>> > >
>> > > But there is still another issue which I might explain with the
>> following screenshots. Since I installed an ET probe to my roaster and
>> connected it with Artisan, Events seem to be shown always on the ?higher?
>> graph. In the first screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 8 mbar when
>> BT reaches 140?C and it was displayed well at that time (without having an
>> ET graph, now in the second screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 10
>> mbar when BT reaches 140?C, but the ?flag? appears on the wrong (=ET) grap,
>> although in roasting/properties/events the value is registered properly (
>> screenshot #3).
>> > >
>> > > This becomes an issue when working in follow up modus with a detail
>> view, you are not sure what?s coming next, when the flag in the background
>> profile appears on the et graph, i.e. out of the detail window shown on my
>> screen.
>> > >
>> > > How can I solve this, or can you?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, Jochen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_alt.png>
>> > >
>> > > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_neu.png>
>> > >
>> > > <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> > >
>> > > Jochen Hintze
>> > > JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> > > Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> > > Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> > > 14199 Berlin
>> > > Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
>> > > Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:
>> info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
>> > > Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <
>> http://jocaffe.de/>>
>> > > WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> > > EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
>> > >
>> > >> Am 23.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net
>> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net <mailto:
>> marko.luther(a)gmx.net>>>:
>> > >>
>> > >> The visibility of the extra events is controlled via the flag
>> "Events" and the combo box "Bars" from within the events dialog (menu
>> Config >> Events, 1st tab).
>> > >>
>> > >> Marko
>> > >>
>> > >>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 22:10, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:
>> frans(a)goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hi Jochen,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sorry for replying with this delay. I was away a few days and am
>> catching up with mails.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It?s useful to always save a working configuration. It?s very easy
>> to do (Help -> Save Settings). If I change something I make a new backup
>> with another name so if I want to move back to one of the previous setups
>> that worked, that is easy as well.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If you have a Mac and Timemachine, that is also an easy way to fall
>> back on last week?s version that worked well for you.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I?m not sure what you mean exactly by ?adding the BT probe?. This
>> could be that you bought and installed a probe to the exhaust of your
>> roaster, or that you connected it to your interface and let it communicate
>> with Artisan, or both.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If with ?flags? you mean the signs saying ?DE? and "FCs? for
>> instance, and they are pointing to the ET graph, the you may want to use
>> the option to swap these in the software, or you may want to connect them
>> to the other ports on your hardware interface with your computer.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If you document with screen snapshots of menus and pictures of your
>> machine and other hardware, more people with similar setups will be able to
>> give you better advice.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> frans
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Op 15 sep. 2016, om 06:05 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
>> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>>
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> No , unfortunately I did not. Furthermore once I added the ET
>> probe, as long as the flags still showed up they were at the ET graph
>> instead of the BT graph! ?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Jochen
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Am 14.09.2016 um 22:52 schrieb Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com
>> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:
>> frans(a)goddijn.com>>>:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Did you save your setup? If so, you can load it again and all
>> will be back to normal again.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Frans
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Op 14 sep. 2016, om 15:21 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
>> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>>
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I made some changes when adding my ET-Sensor and somehow the
>> flags for my events like gas or fan settings disappeared. Do not find out
>> how to fix.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Could anybody please help me out?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jo
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Jochen Hintze
>> > >>>>>> JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> > >>>>>> Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> > >>>>>> Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> > >>>>>> 14199 Berlin
>> > >>>>>> Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
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>> > >>>>>> Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <
>> http://jocaffe.de/>>
>> > >>>>>> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> > >>>>>> EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff><KaffeeCampus 2016.jpeg>
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Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
by Frans Goddijn
Same here, auto DE, a voice command alerting me to approaching FCs, and auto DROP clicked on
F
> Op 24 sep. 2016, om 14:32 heeft James Maguire <jvm986(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> I think that's the point. He is in a situation where he has accidentally pressed DROP too early.
>
> I personally use the automatic CHARGE and DROP functions which detect the change in temperature indicative of those points.
>
> Furthermore, once I am familiar with the coffee I set the FC temperature which means I am essentially hands off on events - avoiding mistakes like the one you are mentioning.
>
> J
>
> On Saturday, 24 September 2016, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>> wrote:
> Indeed I have no way of understanding why you would DROP the beans and still continue the roast. The beans are in the cooling tray then. Or, if they are still in the drum, DROP has been clicked a little prematurely.
>
> Never mind.
>
> Frans
>
>> Op 24 sep. 2016, om 14:11 heeft Chris Pefanis <chris.pefanis(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chris.pefanis(a)gmail.com');>> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Hi Frans!
>>
>> You have not understood my problem.
>>
>> You should try this and see what happens to gain a clearer understanding of the issue at hand - click DROP before you click 1st CRACK, then right-click and add your first crack point.
>> If you can still see % development after DROP has been triggered but your roast must continue, then your version of Artisan does not work the same as mine.
>> My version no longer increments % development after DROP has been triggered.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris Pefanis
>>
>> On 24 Sep 2016 13:16, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de');>> wrote:
>>
>> While it is possible to right-click and adjust your mis-click, it is unfortunate that an undo option is not available. It has happened to me before that I have hit DROP instead of 1st CRACK, and have to continuously right-click the DROP point after adding a 1st CRACK event so I can monitor the % development.
>> Would it be possible to add an undo function in a future revision?
>>
>> Thank you again for a wonderful product. I'd be lost without it.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Chris Pefanis
>>
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>> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marko.luther(a)gmx.net');>>
>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click?
>> To: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');>>
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>> > On 22 Sep 2016, at 23:17, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Chip, have you tried ?right-click? on the graph where you actually wanted FC END to be, for instance after the roast?
>>
>> ..also possible during the roast.
>>
>> M
>>
>> >
>> > Frans
>> >
>> >> Op 22 sep. 2016, om 23:10 heeft RR <chip(a)radioroasters.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chip(a)radioroasters.com');>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>
>> >> I've occasionally hit an event button prematurely, like FC END, before I
>> >> meant to.
>> >> Any way to UNDO these errant clicks?
>> >
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>> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:50:03 +0200
>> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marko.luther(a)gmx.net');>>
>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Event flags disappeared
>> To: Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');>>
>> Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de');>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Dear Jochen,
>>
>> your issue is by design (a design from about 7 years ago done by Rafael) to display events on the ET (if that is available) and on the BT otherwise. Only thing you can do right now is to switch to display those extra events "by value" or "by type" to let them be drawn below the temperature curves. In the later case you can click on the changes to have the actual values displayed in the message line.
>>
>> Btw. I see from those two screenshots (before and after installing the ET) that your new probe introduces considerable noise (most likely due to some grounding issue) into your meter (also affecting the BT).
>>
>> Marko
>>
>> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:53, Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Marco, Frans,
>> >
>> > thanks for replying, I solved one issue in the meanwhile.
>> >
>> > But there is still another issue which I might explain with the following screenshots. Since I installed an ET probe to my roaster and connected it with Artisan, Events seem to be shown always on the ?higher? graph. In the first screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 8 mbar when BT reaches 140?C and it was displayed well at that time (without having an ET graph, now in the second screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 10 mbar when BT reaches 140?C, but the ?flag? appears on the wrong (=ET) grap, although in roasting/properties/events the value is registered properly ( screenshot #3).
>> >
>> > This becomes an issue when working in follow up modus with a detail view, you are not sure what?s coming next, when the flag in the background profile appears on the et graph, i.e. out of the detail window shown on my screen.
>> >
>> > How can I solve this, or can you?
>> >
>> > Thanks, Jochen
>> >
>> >
>> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_alt.png>
>> >
>> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_neu.png>
>> >
>> > <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> >
>> > Jochen Hintze
>> > JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> > Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> > Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> > 14199 Berlin
>> > Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
>> > Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');>>
>> > Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <http://jocaffe.de/>>
>> > WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> > EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
>> >
>> >
>> > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
>> >
>> >> Am 23.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marko.luther(a)gmx.net');> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marko.luther(a)gmx.net');>>>:
>> >>
>> >> The visibility of the extra events is controlled via the flag "Events" and the combo box "Bars" from within the events dialog (menu Config >> Events, 1st tab).
>> >>
>> >> Marko
>> >>
>> >>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 22:10, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jochen,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry for replying with this delay. I was away a few days and am catching up with mails.
>> >>>
>> >>> It?s useful to always save a working configuration. It?s very easy to do (Help -> Save Settings). If I change something I make a new backup with another name so if I want to move back to one of the previous setups that worked, that is easy as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have a Mac and Timemachine, that is also an easy way to fall back on last week?s version that worked well for you.
>> >>>
>> >>> I?m not sure what you mean exactly by ?adding the BT probe?. This could be that you bought and installed a probe to the exhaust of your roaster, or that you connected it to your interface and let it communicate with Artisan, or both.
>> >>>
>> >>> If with ?flags? you mean the signs saying ?DE? and "FCs? for instance, and they are pointing to the ET graph, the you may want to use the option to swap these in the software, or you may want to connect them to the other ports on your hardware interface with your computer.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you document with screen snapshots of menus and pictures of your machine and other hardware, more people with similar setups will be able to give you better advice.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> frans
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Op 15 sep. 2016, om 06:05 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');>>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No , unfortunately I did not. Furthermore once I added the ET probe, as long as the flags still showed up they were at the ET graph instead of the BT graph! ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jochen
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 14.09.2016 um 22:52 schrieb Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frans(a)goddijn.com');>>>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Did you save your setup? If so, you can load it again and all will be back to normal again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Frans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Op 14 sep. 2016, om 15:21 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info(a)jocaffe.de');>>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I made some changes when adding my ET-Sensor and somehow the flags for my events like gas or fan settings disappeared. Do not find out how to fix.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Could anybody please help me out?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jo
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jochen Hintze
>> >>>>>> JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> >>>>>> Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> >>>>>> Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> >>>>>> 14199 Berlin
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>> >>>>>> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> >>>>>> EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
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Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
by Chris Pefanis
Indeed Frans, this is the point and topic of the discussion.
The first poster described a scenario when an event button was accidentally
clicked, which you responded to and explained a right-click on the graph to
re-position that mistaken click.
I described a further scenario where I have experienced unnecessary hassles
after -mistakenly- clicking on an event prematurely.
So, what I am describing is not an actual scenario where the beans are
cooling, as you have assumed it to be, but a mistake where the virtual
scenario is created.
In more detail for clear understanding:
1) the roast is in process
2) I mistakenly click 'Drop'
3) I right click the graph to place my 1st crack point when the true event
actually happens ( because button is not available after 'Drop' has been
mistakenly clicked.
4) I must continuously right-click to re-position DROP to monitor the %
development while the beans continue to roast (note that the beans are not
actually physically dropped yet)
5) When the beans are actually dropped, I right-click a final time to mark
the actual event of the beans physically dropping into the cooler.
This seems like an unnecessary effort that could be prevented with an
'undo" function.
Regards,
Chris Pefanis
On 24 Sep 2016 14:21, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:21:13 +0200
> From: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
> To: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de"
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> Indeed I have no way of understanding why you would DROP the beans and
> still continue the roast. The beans are in the cooling tray then. Or, if
> they are still in the drum, DROP has been clicked a little prematurely.
>
> Never mind.
>
> Frans
>
> > Op 24 sep. 2016, om 14:11 heeft Chris Pefanis <chris.pefanis(a)gmail.com>
> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Hi Frans!
> >
> > You have not understood my problem.
> >
> > You should try this and see what happens to gain a clearer understanding
> of the issue at hand - click DROP before you click 1st CRACK, then
> right-click and add your first crack point.
> > If you can still see % development after DROP has been triggered but
> your roast must continue, then your version of Artisan does not work the
> same as mine.
> > My version no longer increments % development after DROP has been
> triggered.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chris Pefanis
> >
> > On 24 Sep 2016 13:16, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
> <mailto:artisan-user-request@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
> >
> > While it is possible to right-click and adjust your mis-click, it is
> unfortunate that an undo option is not available. It has happened to me
> before that I have hit DROP instead of 1st CRACK, and have to continuously
> right-click the DROP point after adding a 1st CRACK event so I can monitor
> the % development.
> > Would it be possible to add an undo function in a future revision?
> >
> > Thank you again for a wonderful product. I'd be lost without it.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Chris Pefanis
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016 09:50, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:55:49 +0200
> > From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click?
> > To: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>
> > Cc: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.
> einfachkaffee.de>"
> > <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.
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> >
> > > On 22 Sep 2016, at 23:17, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:
> frans(a)goddijn.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chip, have you tried ?right-click? on the graph where you actually
> wanted FC END to be, for instance after the roast?
> >
> > ..also possible during the roast.
> >
> > M
> >
> > >
> > > Frans
> > >
> > >> Op 22 sep. 2016, om 23:10 heeft RR <chip(a)radioroasters.com <mailto:
> chip(a)radioroasters.com>> het volgende geschreven:
> > >>
> > >> I've occasionally hit an event button prematurely, like FC END,
> before I
> > >> meant to.
> > >> Any way to UNDO these errant clicks?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:50:03 +0200
> > From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
> > Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Event flags disappeared
> > To: Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
> > Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.
> einfachkaffee.de>
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> 81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744(a)gmx.net>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Dear Jochen,
> >
> > your issue is by design (a design from about 7 years ago done by Rafael)
> to display events on the ET (if that is available) and on the BT otherwise.
> Only thing you can do right now is to switch to display those extra events
> "by value" or "by type" to let them be drawn below the temperature curves.
> In the later case you can click on the changes to have the actual values
> displayed in the message line.
> >
> > Btw. I see from those two screenshots (before and after installing the
> ET) that your new probe introduces considerable noise (most likely due to
> some grounding issue) into your meter (also affecting the BT).
> >
> > Marko
> >
> > > On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:53, Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:
> info(a)jocaffe.de>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Marco, Frans,
> > >
> > > thanks for replying, I solved one issue in the meanwhile.
> > >
> > > But there is still another issue which I might explain with the
> following screenshots. Since I installed an ET probe to my roaster and
> connected it with Artisan, Events seem to be shown always on the ?higher?
> graph. In the first screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 8 mbar when
> BT reaches 140?C and it was displayed well at that time (without having an
> ET graph, now in the second screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 10
> mbar when BT reaches 140?C, but the ?flag? appears on the wrong (=ET) grap,
> although in roasting/properties/events the value is registered properly (
> screenshot #3).
> > >
> > > This becomes an issue when working in follow up modus with a detail
> view, you are not sure what?s coming next, when the flag in the background
> profile appears on the et graph, i.e. out of the detail window shown on my
> screen.
> > >
> > > How can I solve this, or can you?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jochen
> > >
> > >
> > > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_alt.png>
> > >
> > > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_neu.png>
> > >
> > > <PastedGraphic-2.png>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> > >
> > > Jochen Hintze
> > > JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
> > > Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
> > > Reichenhaller Str. 1
> > > 14199 Berlin
> > > Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
> > > Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de
> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
> > > Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <
> http://jocaffe.de/>>
> > > WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
> > > EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
> > >
> > >
> > > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
> > >
> > >> Am 23.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net
> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net <mailto:
> marko.luther(a)gmx.net>>>:
> > >>
> > >> The visibility of the extra events is controlled via the flag
> "Events" and the combo box "Bars" from within the events dialog (menu
> Config >> Events, 1st tab).
> > >>
> > >> Marko
> > >>
> > >>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 22:10, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:
> frans(a)goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Jochen,
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry for replying with this delay. I was away a few days and am
> catching up with mails.
> > >>>
> > >>> It?s useful to always save a working configuration. It?s very easy
> to do (Help -> Save Settings). If I change something I make a new backup
> with another name so if I want to move back to one of the previous setups
> that worked, that is easy as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you have a Mac and Timemachine, that is also an easy way to fall
> back on last week?s version that worked well for you.
> > >>>
> > >>> I?m not sure what you mean exactly by ?adding the BT probe?. This
> could be that you bought and installed a probe to the exhaust of your
> roaster, or that you connected it to your interface and let it communicate
> with Artisan, or both.
> > >>>
> > >>> If with ?flags? you mean the signs saying ?DE? and "FCs? for
> instance, and they are pointing to the ET graph, the you may want to use
> the option to swap these in the software, or you may want to connect them
> to the other ports on your hardware interface with your computer.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you document with screen snapshots of menus and pictures of your
> machine and other hardware, more people with similar setups will be able to
> give you better advice.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>>
> > >>> frans
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Op 15 sep. 2016, om 06:05 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>>
> het volgende geschreven:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No , unfortunately I did not. Furthermore once I added the ET
> probe, as long as the flags still showed up they were at the ET graph
> instead of the BT graph! ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jochen
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Am 14.09.2016 um 22:52 schrieb Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com
> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:
> frans(a)goddijn.com>>>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Did you save your setup? If so, you can load it again and all will
> be back to normal again.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Frans
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Op 14 sep. 2016, om 15:21 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>>
> het volgende geschreven:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I made some changes when adding my ET-Sensor and somehow the
> flags for my events like gas or fan settings disappeared. Do not find out
> how to fix.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Could anybody please help me out?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Jo
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Jochen Hintze
> > >>>>>> JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
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> http://jocaffe.de/>>
> > >>>>>> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
> > >>>>>> EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
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3 years, 2 months
Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
by Frans Goddijn
Indeed I have no way of understanding why you would DROP the beans and still continue the roast. The beans are in the cooling tray then. Or, if they are still in the drum, DROP has been clicked a little prematurely.
Never mind.
Frans
> Op 24 sep. 2016, om 14:11 heeft Chris Pefanis <chris.pefanis(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Frans!
>
> You have not understood my problem.
>
> You should try this and see what happens to gain a clearer understanding of the issue at hand - click DROP before you click 1st CRACK, then right-click and add your first crack point.
> If you can still see % development after DROP has been triggered but your roast must continue, then your version of Artisan does not work the same as mine.
> My version no longer increments % development after DROP has been triggered.
>
> Regards,
> Chris Pefanis
>
> On 24 Sep 2016 13:16, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user-request@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
>
> While it is possible to right-click and adjust your mis-click, it is unfortunate that an undo option is not available. It has happened to me before that I have hit DROP instead of 1st CRACK, and have to continuously right-click the DROP point after adding a 1st CRACK event so I can monitor the % development.
> Would it be possible to add an undo function in a future revision?
>
> Thank you again for a wonderful product. I'd be lost without it.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Chris Pefanis
>
> On 23 Sep 2016 09:50, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user-request@lists.einfachkaffee.de>> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Undo mistaken button click? (Marko Luther)
> 2. Re: Event flags disappeared (Marko Luther)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:55:49 +0200
> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click?
> To: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>
> Cc: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>"
> <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>>
> Message-ID: <AC808F5D-B2DF-49E6-AF96-A3D0CD7B821E(a)gmx.net <mailto:AC808F5D-B2DF-49E6-AF96-A3D0CD7B821E@gmx.net>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> > On 22 Sep 2016, at 23:17, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Chip, have you tried ?right-click? on the graph where you actually wanted FC END to be, for instance after the roast?
>
> ..also possible during the roast.
>
> M
>
> >
> > Frans
> >
> >> Op 22 sep. 2016, om 23:10 heeft RR <chip(a)radioroasters.com <mailto:chip@radioroasters.com>> het volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >> I've occasionally hit an event button prematurely, like FC END, before I
> >> meant to.
> >> Any way to UNDO these errant clicks?
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:50:03 +0200
> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Event flags disappeared
> To: Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
> Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de <mailto:artisan-user@lists.einfachkaffee.de>
> Message-ID: <81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744(a)gmx.net <mailto:81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744@gmx.net>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Dear Jochen,
>
> your issue is by design (a design from about 7 years ago done by Rafael) to display events on the ET (if that is available) and on the BT otherwise. Only thing you can do right now is to switch to display those extra events "by value" or "by type" to let them be drawn below the temperature curves. In the later case you can click on the changes to have the actual values displayed in the message line.
>
> Btw. I see from those two screenshots (before and after installing the ET) that your new probe introduces considerable noise (most likely due to some grounding issue) into your meter (also affecting the BT).
>
> Marko
>
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:53, Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Marco, Frans,
> >
> > thanks for replying, I solved one issue in the meanwhile.
> >
> > But there is still another issue which I might explain with the following screenshots. Since I installed an ET probe to my roaster and connected it with Artisan, Events seem to be shown always on the ?higher? graph. In the first screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 8 mbar when BT reaches 140?C and it was displayed well at that time (without having an ET graph, now in the second screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 10 mbar when BT reaches 140?C, but the ?flag? appears on the wrong (=ET) grap, although in roasting/properties/events the value is registered properly ( screenshot #3).
> >
> > This becomes an issue when working in follow up modus with a detail view, you are not sure what?s coming next, when the flag in the background profile appears on the et graph, i.e. out of the detail window shown on my screen.
> >
> > How can I solve this, or can you?
> >
> > Thanks, Jochen
> >
> >
> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_alt.png>
> >
> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_neu.png>
> >
> > <PastedGraphic-2.png>
> >
> >
> >
> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> >
> > Jochen Hintze
> > JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
> > Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
> > Reichenhaller Str. 1
> > 14199 Berlin
> > Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
> > Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
> > Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <http://jocaffe.de/>>
> > WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
> > EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
> >
> >
> > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
> >
> >> Am 23.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>>:
> >>
> >> The visibility of the extra events is controlled via the flag "Events" and the combo box "Bars" from within the events dialog (menu Config >> Events, 1st tab).
> >>
> >> Marko
> >>
> >>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 22:10, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jochen,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for replying with this delay. I was away a few days and am catching up with mails.
> >>>
> >>> It?s useful to always save a working configuration. It?s very easy to do (Help -> Save Settings). If I change something I make a new backup with another name so if I want to move back to one of the previous setups that worked, that is easy as well.
> >>>
> >>> If you have a Mac and Timemachine, that is also an easy way to fall back on last week?s version that worked well for you.
> >>>
> >>> I?m not sure what you mean exactly by ?adding the BT probe?. This could be that you bought and installed a probe to the exhaust of your roaster, or that you connected it to your interface and let it communicate with Artisan, or both.
> >>>
> >>> If with ?flags? you mean the signs saying ?DE? and "FCs? for instance, and they are pointing to the ET graph, the you may want to use the option to swap these in the software, or you may want to connect them to the other ports on your hardware interface with your computer.
> >>>
> >>> If you document with screen snapshots of menus and pictures of your machine and other hardware, more people with similar setups will be able to give you better advice.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> frans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Op 15 sep. 2016, om 06:05 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>> het volgende geschreven:
> >>>>
> >>>> No , unfortunately I did not. Furthermore once I added the ET probe, as long as the flags still showed up they were at the ET graph instead of the BT graph! ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jochen
> >>>>
> >>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 14.09.2016 um 22:52 schrieb Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Did you save your setup? If so, you can load it again and all will be back to normal again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frans
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Op 14 sep. 2016, om 15:21 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>> het volgende geschreven:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I made some changes when adding my ET-Sensor and somehow the flags for my events like gas or fan settings disappeared. Do not find out how to fix.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could anybody please help me out?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jochen Hintze
> >>>>>> JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
> >>>>>> Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
> >>>>>> Reichenhaller Str. 1
> >>>>>> 14199 Berlin
> >>>>>> Tel: +49 30 2005 9224 <tel:%2B49%2030%202005%209224>
> >>>>>> Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>>
> >>>>>> Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/> <http://jocaffe.de/ <http://jocaffe.de/>>
> >>>>>> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
> >>>>>> EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff><KaffeeCampus 2016.jpeg>
> >>>>>>
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3 years, 2 months
Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click
by Chris Pefanis
Hi Frans!
You have not understood my problem.
You should try this and see what happens to gain a clearer understanding of
the issue at hand - click DROP before you click 1st CRACK, then
right-click and add your first crack point.
If you can still see % development after DROP has been triggered but your
roast must continue, then your version of Artisan does not work the same as
mine.
My version no longer increments % development after DROP has been triggered.
Regards,
Chris Pefanis
On 24 Sep 2016 13:16, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
>
> While it is possible to right-click and adjust your mis-click, it is
> unfortunate that an undo option is not available. It has happened to me
> before that I have hit DROP instead of 1st CRACK, and have to continuously
> right-click the DROP point after adding a 1st CRACK event so I can monitor
> the % development.
> Would it be possible to add an undo function in a future revision?
>
> Thank you again for a wonderful product. I'd be lost without it.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Chris Pefanis
> On 23 Sep 2016 09:50, <artisan-user-request(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de> wrote:
>
>> Send Artisan-User mailing list submissions to
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>> 1. Re: Undo mistaken button click? (Marko Luther)
>> 2. Re: Event flags disappeared (Marko Luther)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:55:49 +0200
>> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Undo mistaken button click?
>> To: Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com>
>> Cc: "artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de"
>> <artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de>
>> Message-ID: <AC808F5D-B2DF-49E6-AF96-A3D0CD7B821E(a)gmx.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>>
>> > On 22 Sep 2016, at 23:17, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Chip, have you tried ?right-click? on the graph where you actually
>> wanted FC END to be, for instance after the roast?
>>
>> ..also possible during the roast.
>>
>> M
>>
>> >
>> > Frans
>> >
>> >> Op 22 sep. 2016, om 23:10 heeft RR <chip(a)radioroasters.com> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>> >>
>> >> I've occasionally hit an event button prematurely, like FC END, before
>> I
>> >> meant to.
>> >> Any way to UNDO these errant clicks?
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Artisan-User mailing list
>> > Artisan-User(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
>> > https://lists.mokelbu.de/listinfo/artisan-user
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:50:03 +0200
>> From: Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Artisan-user] Event flags disappeared
>> To: Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de>
>> Cc: artisan-user(a)lists.einfachkaffee.de
>> Message-ID: <81AC74FD-313C-4ADB-BD52-2D9996AB0744(a)gmx.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Dear Jochen,
>>
>> your issue is by design (a design from about 7 years ago done by Rafael)
>> to display events on the ET (if that is available) and on the BT otherwise.
>> Only thing you can do right now is to switch to display those extra events
>> "by value" or "by type" to let them be drawn below the temperature curves.
>> In the later case you can click on the changes to have the actual values
>> displayed in the message line.
>>
>> Btw. I see from those two screenshots (before and after installing the
>> ET) that your new probe introduces considerable noise (most likely due to
>> some grounding issue) into your meter (also affecting the BT).
>>
>> Marko
>>
>> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 08:53, Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Marco, Frans,
>> >
>> > thanks for replying, I solved one issue in the meanwhile.
>> >
>> > But there is still another issue which I might explain with the
>> following screenshots. Since I installed an ET probe to my roaster and
>> connected it with Artisan, Events seem to be shown always on the ?higher?
>> graph. In the first screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 8 mbar when
>> BT reaches 140?C and it was displayed well at that time (without having an
>> ET graph, now in the second screenshot you may see that I set Energy to 10
>> mbar when BT reaches 140?C, but the ?flag? appears on the wrong (=ET) grap,
>> although in roasting/properties/events the value is registered properly (
>> screenshot #3).
>> >
>> > This becomes an issue when working in follow up modus with a detail
>> view, you are not sure what?s coming next, when the flag in the background
>> profile appears on the et graph, i.e. out of the detail window shown on my
>> screen.
>> >
>> > How can I solve this, or can you?
>> >
>> > Thanks, Jochen
>> >
>> >
>> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_alt.png>
>> >
>> > <ArtisanScreenshot_BK_neu.png>
>> >
>> > <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> >
>> > Jochen Hintze
>> > JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> > Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> > Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> > 14199 Berlin
>> > Tel: +49 30 2005 9224
>> > Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>
>> > Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/>
>> > WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> > EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
>> >
>> >
>> > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
>> >
>> >> Am 23.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Marko Luther <marko.luther(a)gmx.net
>> <mailto:marko.luther@gmx.net>>:
>> >>
>> >> The visibility of the extra events is controlled via the flag "Events"
>> and the combo box "Bars" from within the events dialog (menu Config >>
>> Events, 1st tab).
>> >>
>> >> Marko
>> >>
>> >>> On 22 Sep 2016, at 22:10, Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com <mailto:
>> frans(a)goddijn.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jochen,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry for replying with this delay. I was away a few days and am
>> catching up with mails.
>> >>>
>> >>> It?s useful to always save a working configuration. It?s very easy to
>> do (Help -> Save Settings). If I change something I make a new backup with
>> another name so if I want to move back to one of the previous setups that
>> worked, that is easy as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have a Mac and Timemachine, that is also an easy way to fall
>> back on last week?s version that worked well for you.
>> >>>
>> >>> I?m not sure what you mean exactly by ?adding the BT probe?. This
>> could be that you bought and installed a probe to the exhaust of your
>> roaster, or that you connected it to your interface and let it communicate
>> with Artisan, or both.
>> >>>
>> >>> If with ?flags? you mean the signs saying ?DE? and "FCs? for
>> instance, and they are pointing to the ET graph, the you may want to use
>> the option to swap these in the software, or you may want to connect them
>> to the other ports on your hardware interface with your computer.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you document with screen snapshots of menus and pictures of your
>> machine and other hardware, more people with similar setups will be able to
>> give you better advice.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> frans
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Op 15 sep. 2016, om 06:05 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
>> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No , unfortunately I did not. Furthermore once I added the ET probe,
>> as long as the flags still showed up they were at the ET graph instead of
>> the BT graph! ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jochen
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 14.09.2016 um 22:52 schrieb Frans Goddijn <frans(a)goddijn.com
>> <mailto:frans@goddijn.com>>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Did you save your setup? If so, you can load it again and all will
>> be back to normal again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Frans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Op 14 sep. 2016, om 15:21 heeft Jochen Hintze <info(a)jocaffe.de
>> <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I made some changes when adding my ET-Sensor and somehow the flags
>> for my events like gas or fan settings disappeared. Do not find out how to
>> fix.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Could anybody please help me out?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jo
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jochen Hintze
>> >>>>>> JOCaff? R?sterei & Maschinen
>> >>>>>> Am Rathaus Schmargendorf
>> >>>>>> Reichenhaller Str. 1
>> >>>>>> 14199 Berlin
>> >>>>>> Tel: +49 30 2005 9224
>> >>>>>> Mail: info(a)jocaffe.de <mailto:info@jocaffe.de>
>> >>>>>> Web: jocaffe.de <http://jocaffe.de/>
>> >>>>>> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 21039843
>> >>>>>> EORI-Nr.: DE1490850
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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