Hi, I plan on purchasing a Center 609 thermometer. I just want to make sure that once I get it, it will be a simple plug in play situation? Like pick the data logger form the list and then roast! Is it even close to the simple? Also is this the right place to come with questions? i posted something on Home barista recently but didnt get a response.
thank you for your time
Dustin
I'm in the process to buy a 6kg roaster (Genio roaster from South Africa) and I would like to know if there is any possibility to log (and graph) the measurement of airflow and the gas input along with the 2 thermocouple probes (I'm already using an Omega HH506RA with 2 probes with artisan)
I'm open to any suggestion. The roaster comes with just 2 thermocouple probes but there is huge flexibility to implements all the tools in order to achieve the goal since I'm in direct contact with the owner that is the engineer.
The final goal is maximum control of all the variables to achieve perfect consistency.
Thank you very much for the great software you're developing for free, I'm a real happy artisan user with my actual 1kg homemade iron drum roaster.
Rubens Gardelli
Italy
Hi,
I have a custom roaster that I can program to 'emulate' other devices as
needed so I can use Artisan. At the moment it emulates an Arduino.
As an Arduino I can send 4 different values to Artisan.
Is there a way that I can send more? I really only want to use one
serial port.
Also, is there a way to send a 'message' to Artisan to signal drop and
other events?
thanks for a great program.
regards
Lee
Intersting topic!
As a user of a 1/2 kg-HUKY-roaster
I am glad to be able to produce an Artisan log file with ET and BT.
What is the aim of measuring and controlling air flow?
Saving energy?
Doing better roasts?
I try to stay stable with the air flow at a law level, just to make sure,
that chaff and smoke are comming out.
I do not use air flow to change temperature.
I would really want to know, how important and how useful
air-flow-logging could be.
Only good for big roasters? I do not know what the standards are.
Tricky, due to measuring failures?
Best luck
Erhard
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> Airflow + energy input
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> Thank you Marko and ZB for your answer.
>
> I feel a little confused, maybe that's caused by my lack of technical knowledge.
>
> I'm trying to understand if there is a way to read in real-time the energy input and the airflow and see the real-time values on the same artisan window where I see thebean/env temp curve.
>
> Here is the answer from the Genio roaster engineer/producer:
>
> "Regarding your plans for Artisan:? Unfortunately, I cannot be of any
> help with installing or connecting your logging systems.? That will have to be your own project.
> I can install the necessary sensors for
> you in the machine, which is already a lot more than most manufacturers
> will be willing to do.? From Artisan's response, I see that the
> software is really not made for this yet.? If you install the sensor in
> the way that they suggested, it will certainly clog up with chaff and
> coffee oils in a few days.? Probat has back pressure sensors that does
> not point directly into the air stream, and even they need regular
> maintenance.? Your best bet would be to install a differential pressure
> sensor (there are many types, of which the Magnehelic is just one) with
> the high pressure end inside the pipe, pointing away from the air flow,
> and the low pressure pipe outside of the air flow pipe.? We can also
> position the low pressure pipe close to a maintenance panel so that you
> can easily clean it.? To read the sensor, we can use a simple LED
> display to see what the sensor reads.? The led display will have an
> output, so when Artisan is ready, you can connect the LED display to
> your software. This connection will be for you and Artisan to figure
> out, but the option is there. I use the same LED displays for my
> thermocouples.? The same can be done with the pressure sensor on the gas
> pipe.
> You can use the Extech HD-755 unit that Artisan
> suggested.? It does come with software, so you won't need artisan to log
> the data.? If you order this yourself, it will be much cheaper than the
> options I can give you.? I can show you where to install the pipes.
> Remember
> that sensors are standardized.? They all give out 4-20mA signals, which
> is simply a small electrical voltage.? At 4mA, an LCD display will show
> 0%.? At 20mA, your LCD will show 100%.? At 0mA, the wires were cut or
> the power is off and your sensor will read an error (that is a good
> thing).? This is standard for any sensor.? The trick is to know what to
> do with the information!!!
> As I said, I can install the sensors
> for you and give you ways to see what they are reading.? However,
> connecting them to any software will be for your own project."
>
> I hope that someone who read this mailing list has the right knowledge to help understand what hardware I should install in order to simultaneously log all the 4 variables (Bean and env temp + Airflow + energy input) with artisan software.
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Rubens
> Italy
>
>
>
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> A: Rubens Gardelli<rubens.gardelli(a)yahoo.it>
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> Inviato: Mercoled? 5 Ottobre 2011 20:24
> Oggetto: Re: [Artisan-user] Airflow and energy input control
>
> Hi Rubens,
>
> thanks for using Artisan.
> I think logging the airflow is now the missing piece in my puzzle. For one, environmental conditions like air pressure effects the air flow in the roaster and you need some data to know how to best compensate for this, and second, it seems that there is a point of airflow in each roaster that maximizes energy transfer. Any airflow higher than that results in more cold air flowing in than your heater can cope with.
>
> I was advised that a magnehelic would be the sensor to look for. One would put both ends in the pipe transporting the air out of the roaster, one pointed in the direction of the airflow the other against it. Further, it might be best to use some metal for the pressure pipes to the sensors to ensure that the temperature does not get to hot at the sensor. There are mechanic sensors and also electric ones, some even integrated into a meter with USB connection like the Extech HD-755. Not sure if chaff in the air could lockup the sensor pipes.
>
> Open for any suggestions,
> Marko
>
> PS: I might be around Forli for christmas..
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rubens Gardelli wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process to buy a 6kg roaster (Genio roaster from South Africa) and I would like to know if there is any possibility to log (and graph) the measurement of airflow and the gas input along with the 2 thermocouple probes (I'm already using an Omega HH506RA with 2 probes with artisan)
>>
>> I'm open to any suggestion. The roaster comes with just 2 thermocouple probes but there is huge flexibility to implements all the tools in order to achieve the goal since I'm in direct contact with the owner that is the engineer.
>>
>> The final goal is maximum control of all the variables to achieve perfect consistency.
>>
>> Thank you very much for the great software you're developing for free, I'm a real happy artisan user with my actual 1kg homemade iron drum roaster.
>>
>> Rubens Gardelli
>> Italy
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Hi all.
http://code.google.com/p/artisan/
There is a new version of artisan that fixes some bugs and also adds new LCDs for the extra devices. The extra devices LCDs are non visible by default. They can be turned on individually for each extra device in the extra device configuration table.
The artisan team.
